Showing posts with label Joe Morgan. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Joe Morgan. Show all posts

Tuesday, January 29, 2013

Saying Good-Bye to the fake to third pickoff - WHY?!?





from McCovey Chronicles:
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2013/1/28/3924554/saying-goodbye-to-the-fake-to-third-pickoff-move?ref=yahoo

What Santiago did there would be illegal in 2013. No, no, not changing his name and lying about his age. That was already illegal. The fake-to-third, throw-to-first move is what's going to be illegal in 2013. It will be a balk next year, and few pitchers are rather annoyed:


My only question is why? Why?!? Because Joe Morgan thinks it's a balk? Why not get rid of the fake / slash bunt as well? Let's just puts pretty little bow-ties and skirts on the fellas uniforms and go back to a more civil, genteel game that is totally devoid of deception? Let's outlaw the curve-ball next. That's deceptive to the batter isn't it? Something to think about, right?



Or just get rid of those crafty pitchers entirely and put the ball on a tee for the batters. That would be lovely.



What a dumb move by MLB. Who are we protecting here? The nearly extinct, clueless base-runner? I mean seriously folks, how is this move fooling ANYBODY? 

I would be more in favor of banning from MLB (for the entire year, if not life) anybody FOOLED by this move. In fact, Joe Morgan should be removed from the HOF for being foolish enough to think this move is a problem for base-runners and continue to perpetuate the charade that he was a great base-runner during his career. Talk about FRAUD.

If you notice in the video above, it looks like Casilla balks the runner with the back foot by "quick lifting" it and then proceeding with the dreaded "3B-1B fake". Go back and take another look and watch his back foot carefully (as the umpire should have been).

The initial "pump fake" with the back foot should have been a balk, IMO. Maybe we should just get rid of lazy MLB umpires and call it a day.

This move has simply been removing clueless base-runners from the base paths and speeding up games for decades.

Besides, what is HOF Joe Morgan going to whine about now?  Maybe just add a section under BASE RUNNING: titled "Don't get fooled by the third to first move, You Big Dummy!!"


Friday, October 05, 2012

Balk Rule part 3, MLB proposes change...



Not sure why this is even under consideration. I guess Joe Morgan finally got into Bud Selig's earhole and convinced him that this is a balk, even though it doesn't fool anybody. And it shouldn't fool anybody as smart as HOF Joe Morgan


Joe Morgan is smart, just ask him.


My Uncomfortable Encounter With An Angry Joe Morgan




Somewhere in his career, he must have been picked off by this move and had to endure the "walk of shame" back to the dugout, vowing to someday have this rule removed from the rulebook. 

Congratulations Joe, your whining is being rewarded. Lefties around the world rejoice.  


from Coach JT / MaxBP:
MLB is set to outlaw the old fake-to-third and throw-to-first pickoff move next year, you know the move that never works. The proposed rule change will require the pitcher to step off the rubber before faking to third.  The step back will of course trigger the runner on first to get back thus neutralizing the deception and sparing any poor runner from an embarrassing moment - boo hoo!   The only problem I have with this is that the move does indeed work, just not that much. The runner should still have to pay attention and make sure the pitcher pitches right? Hasn't this been part of baseball, for like, forever?   Also, as it is now, a pitcher cannot step to third and in the same move spin back and throw to first...it has to be two separate moves, a step and fake to third and then a turn and throw to first...if a dumb runner breaks for second, this 2-move requirement still gives the poor sap time to get back. 

If you ask us, this proposal only attempts to sanitize the game and widens the advantage a lefty has out there versus a rightie - it's not enough they get to balk every other pick-off? If they want to eliminate deception, why not outlaw bunting because this is clearly an attempt for the hitter to deceive the pitcher and we just won't stand for that either!   That's our story and we're stickin' with it!


MLB to eliminate third-to-first trick move



The good ol’ fake to third, throw to first trick move might be done in baseball. Well, at least in the bigs. This much discussed, often maligned, move is poised to be written out of baseball. And it might happen as soon as next season.
The Playing Rules Committee has approved a proposal that would make this move a balk. MLB executives and umpires have also agreed to this proposal. Under the new rule, a pitcher could only fake a throw to third if he has stepped off the rubber. This rule change, if it definitely goes into effect, is a good thing. The nature of the balk rule is written to keep pitchers from deceiving or tricking any base runners. Well, the fake to third, throw to first move is a direct attempt to trick base runners.

When asked about the possible rule change, Yankees reliever Boone Logan said
I think they should get rid of it. Us lefties can’t do that. Besides, how often does it work? Maybe once in never.
And think about when you see this happen while you’re at a game. Half the fans shout “BALK” while the other half groan. Currently, this move is directly stated as being legal in the official MLB rule book:



Thursday, September 16, 2010

Joe Morgan disses Buster Posey in his own back yard



I used to think he was dumb for his reflexively calling the fake-to-third, comeback pickoff to first move as a balk on the one hand and then immediately saying it doesn't fool anyone. Somewhere as a child, little Joe must have been fooled badly by this move and just never got over it.

And I know he has a great reputation for his disdain for statistics generally, preferring to rely on his own biases to determine who is a better player or team.

Whatever system you use, I'm not sure how you conclude that Jason Heyward is a more deserving Rookie of the Year candidate than Buster Posey this year.

Maybe he's talking to Giants announcer Mike Krukow and GM Brian Sabean too much.

Hall of Famer Joe Morgan doesn't place much value on the role of a catcher and its effect on the performance of his pitching staff. Here's a quote from one of Joe's chats about Bryce Harper in particular and the difficulty of the catching position generally.

"Catching is putting the fingers down and catching the ball," Morgan wrote to a catching fan. "Veteran pitchers call their own games in the majors. No one makes the plays for you at shortstop. You get help when you're a young catcher. Managers will sometimes call pitches, like a football coach calling plays. There's more you have to do as a shortstop — it's not the hardest position to play as a young player, but there's more to learn.

It's funny, because the logic that Sabean used to start Posey in the minors were related to the intricacies of catching and directing a major league staff, so it can't be as easy as Joe makes it out to be.

Giants announcer Mike Krukow sure seems to place a lot of value on every tap of the glove and every glance or stance Posey makes in that it might be tipping one of the Giants pitchers deliveries, thereby causing it to be deposited in the bleachers somewhere. The G-men pitching staff is at or near the top of the league in most statistical categories so he must not be tipping off too much to the opponents.

The gist of Hall of Famer Joe Morgan's opinion that Heyward is the more deserving ROY candidate seems to revolve around the fact that Heyward was "winning games" for the Braves while Posey spent the first month and a half in the minors.

A cursory look at the most elementary of stats would reveal that even with this month and a half advantage, Posey has kept up with Heyward.

In 92 G and 346 AB Posey has 13 HR 59 RBI and a .324 AVG
In 127 G and 463 AB Heyward has 17 HR 68 RBI and a .287 AVG

Heyward has a 117 AB head start and is barely leading in the major, Triple Crown categories.

Looking at the secondary stats Posey outslugs Heyward .506 to .477.

In the WAR or Wins Above Replacement player stat, Heyward leads 4.5 wins vs. 2.4 for Posey.

This stat looks most closely at the category Joe was referring to as far as "winning more games" for his team. The stat compares the offensive stats versus what an average player would have produced at the position instead. Posey's lesser number of AB's and his occasional stints at 1B hurt him in this category.

Clearly, Posey plays the more demanding and important defensive position and there is some value attached to that leadership position. Both players hit in the middle of their teams orders and are offensive forces.

The offensive numbers are a virtual dead heat. I believe that by the end of the season when the ballots are cast, that the value Posey has added defensively more than makes up for the slightly less number of AB's and vaults Gerald Demp "Buster" Posey to 2010 National League Rookie of the Year.

I don't care what Hall of Famer Joe Morgan says.

I just continue to wonder who makes the dumber statements during the course of the average broadcast, Joe Morgan or Tim McCarver?

Giants Top Minor League Prospects

  • 1. Joey Bart 6-2, 215 C Power arm and a power bat, playing a premium defensive position. Good catch and throw skills.
  • 2. Heliot Ramos 6-2, 185 OF Potential high-ceiling player the Giants have been looking for. Great bat speed, early returns were impressive.
  • 3. Chris Shaw 6-3. 230 1B Lefty power bat, limited defensively to 1B, Matt Adams comp?
  • 4. Tyler Beede 6-4, 215 RHP from Vanderbilt projects as top of the rotation starter when he works out his command/control issues. When he misses, he misses by a bunch.
  • 5. Stephen Duggar 6-1, 170 CF Another toolsy, under-achieving OF in the Gary Brown mold, hoping for better results.
  • 6. Sandro Fabian 6-0, 180 OF Dominican signee from 2014, shows some pop in his bat. Below average arm and lack of speed should push him towards LF.
  • 7. Aramis Garcia 6-2, 220 C from Florida INTL projects as a good bat behind the dish with enough defensive skill to play there long-term
  • 8. Heath Quinn 6-2, 190 OF Strong hitter, makes contact with improving approach at the plate. Returns from hamate bone injury.
  • 9. Garrett Williams 6-1, 205 LHP Former Oklahoma standout, Giants prototype, low-ceiling, high-floor prospect.
  • 10. Shaun Anderson 6-4, 225 RHP Large frame, 3.36 K/BB rate. Can start or relieve
  • 11. Jacob Gonzalez 6-3, 190 3B Good pedigree, impressive bat for HS prospect.
  • 12. Seth Corry 6-2 195 LHP Highly regard HS pick. Was mentioned as possible chip in high profile trades.
  • 13. C.J. Hinojosa 5-10, 175 SS Scrappy IF prospect in the mold of Kelby Tomlinson, just gets it done.
  • 14. Garett Cave 6-4, 200 RHP He misses a lot of bats and at times, the plate. 13 K/9 an 5 B/9. Wild thing.

2019 MLB Draft - Top HS Draft Prospects

  • 1. Bobby Witt, Jr. 6-1,185 SS Colleyville Heritage HS (TX) Oklahoma commit. Outstanding defensive SS who can hit. 6.4 speed in 60 yd. Touched 97 on mound. Son of former major leaguer. Five tool potential.
  • 2. Riley Greene 6-2, 190 OF Haggerty HS (FL) Florida commit.Best HS hitting prospect. LH bat with good eye, plate discipline and developing power.
  • 3. C.J. Abrams 6-2, 180 SS Blessed Trinity HS (GA) High-ceiling athlete. 70 speed with plus arm. Hitting needs to develop as he matures. Alabama commit.
  • 4. Reece Hinds 6-4, 210 SS Niceville HS (FL) Power bat, committed to LSU. Plus arm, solid enough bat to move to 3B down the road. 98MPH arm.
  • 5. Daniel Espino 6-3, 200 RHP Georgia Premier Academy (GA) LSU commit. Touches 98 on FB with wipe out SL.

2019 MLB Draft - Top College Draft Prospects

  • 1. Adley Rutschman C Oregon State Plus defender with great arm. Excellent receiver plus a switch hitter with some pop in the bat.
  • 2. Shea Langliers C Baylor Excelent throw and catch skills with good pop time. Quick bat, uses all fields approach with some pop.
  • 3. Zack Thompson 6-2 LHP Kentucky Missed time with an elbow issue. FB up to 95 with plenty of secondary stuff.
  • 4. Matt Wallner 6-5 OF Southern Miss Run producing bat plus mid to upper 90's FB closer. Power bat from the left side, athletic for size.
  • 5. Nick Lodolo LHP TCU Tall LHP, 95MPH FB and solid breaking stuff.