Run, Jaxson, Run: Empirical studies from NFL concussion lawsuit re: Whether concussions hit "pocket passers" more than QB's who run from the pocket?

 

Interesting responses, especially the one re: Mechanism of Injury (from Q1) since that sounds exactly how Dart was concussed versus the Bears.   

•         From Q2: Independent analyses suggest that while mobile quarterbacks might be more prone to certain lower-body injuries, pocket passers may suffer more concussions, rib injuries, and arm/shoulder injuries.

 Also, this from Q3 since it is the type of usage of Darts "special" talents (what makes him great) that got Daboll fired. 

• Scrambles (quarterback runs that were not designed): The injury rate is lower than sacks, at approximately 0.87% per play.
• Designed Runs (quarterback runs): The injury rate is even lower than scrambles, at approximately 0.64% per play.
• Passing plays that don't end in a scramble, sack, or spike: This baseline rate (including incompletions and throwaways) is the lowest, at approximately 0.28%. 

The kid is James Dean personified, in pads and helmet. Instead of making him into  something he is not, like Daniel Jones, Get him a better offensive line and running backs. He will settle into a pure pocket passer, which he is not, at least not yet.Stop hectoring him and start protecting him. 

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Question(s) to Google AI - Q1: Has there been any empirical studies from NFL concussion lawsuit determining whether concussions hit "pocket passers" more than those who run from the pocket.

There is no conclusive empirical evidence from studies related to the NFL concussion lawsuit or other major NFL research that determines whether "pocket passers" sustain more concussions than those who run from the pocket. 

While some general studies have analyzed concussion rates by position or offensive scheme, they do not specifically compare concussion incidence between different styles of quarterbacks (e.g., mobile vs. stationary). 

Key Findings from NFL Concussion Research:

• Position Data: Quarterbacks generally have a lower concussion rate per game played or per play compared to other skill positions like running backs, wide receivers, and tight ends.
• Offensive Scheme: One study found that teams running the "West Coast offense" (which involves more passing plays) had higher overall offensive concussion rates than teams using other schemes, but this did not break down risk by quarterback mobility.
• Mechanism of Injury: Joint research by the NFL and NFLPA (Players Association) found that half of all quarterback concussions occur when their helmets hit the ground, indicating that how they fall is a significant factor, regardless of whether they are in the pocket or running.
• Lack of Specific Data: The general consensus in available research is that there is not enough specific, publicly available data distinguishing between different quarterback playing styles to draw a statistically meaningful conclusion on their relative injury risks. Injury rates in the NFL are also volatile and affected by many factors, including player awareness, better detection methods, and stricter reporting rules.

Q2: Research using publicly available data outside of the lawsuit has explored related questions:

• Passing plays in general have been found to have a significantly higher risk of in-game injuries, especially concussions, compared to running plays. Quarterbacks, wide receivers, and defensive backs contribute most to this increased risk.
• Some independent analyses suggest that while mobile quarterbacks might be more prone to certain lower-body injuries, pocket passers may suffer more concussions, rib injuries, and arm/shoulder injuries.
• One study found that "passing that doesn't end in a scramble or a spike" has a lower injury rate per play than designed runs, scrambles, sacks, or knockdowns. Sacks and knockdowns, which are more common for pocket passers, have the highest injury rates per play, but scrambles have a lower rate than sacks.
• In terms of sheer number of concussions by position, quarterbacks generally have a lower total number compared to positions like tight ends or defensive backs, but the risk per play (exposure) can be high. 

Ultimately, the specific, play-style-based comparison you are asking for using official data from the lawsuit is not publicly available. Independent studies show that the type of play (pass vs. run) and the outcome of the play (sack vs. scramble) significantly affect concussion risk. 

Q3: Independent studies show that the type of play (pass vs. run) and the outcome of the play (sack vs. scramble) significantly affect concussion risk. Can you provide more detail on this?

Independent studies using NFL injury data have provided detailed statistics on how different play types and outcomes affect the risk of injury, particularly concussions. The central finding is that passing plays in general confer a greater overall injury risk than running plays, but the highest risk comes from specific outcomes of passing plays, namely sacks and knockdowns. 

Here are the specific details from independent research:

Injury Rates by Play Type and Outcome

One detailed analysis of NFL data from 2016 to 2020 provided a breakdown of injury rates per play based on the specific outcome: 

• Sacks: The injury rate is approximately 1.4% per play.
• Knockdowns: The injury rate is the highest at approximately 1.56% per play. It is assumed these often happen in the pocket.
• Scrambles (quarterback runs that were not designed): The injury rate is lower than sacks, at approximately 0.87% per play.
• Designed Runs (quarterback runs): The injury rate is even lower than scrambles, at approximately 0.64% per play.
• Passing plays that don't end in a scramble, sack, or spike: This baseline rate (including incompletions and throwaways) is the lowest, at approximately 0.28%. 

Key Takeaways

• Sacks and knockdowns present the most immediate danger in terms of injury likelihood per snap. These outcomes are much more common for traditional "pocket passers" who remain in a vulnerable position longer.
• Running (both designed runs and scrambles), while still carrying some risk, is statistically safer per play for the quarterback than being sacked or knocked down in the pocket.
• Passing plays in general lead to a higher incidence of concussions and core/trunk injuries for the offensive players involved compared to running plays, which affects not only the QB but also receivers and tight ends.
• One study found that teams running the West Coast offense (historically known for more passing attempts) had a significantly greater risk of concussions for offensive players compared to other schemes like the Air Coryell offense. 

In summary, while mobile quarterbacks might have more opportunities to be hit outside the pocket, the nature of the hits (being sacked or knocked down) associated with traditional passing plays carries a substantially higher injury rate per instance than running plays or scrambles. 

Resources Cited:

Grokopedia https://grokipedia.com/page/Quarterback#controversies-and-critical-debates

Fantasy Points  https://www.fantasypoints.com/nfl/articles/2025/statistically-significant-scrambles-and-qb-runs#/

 Academic Citations

 "Style of Play and Rate of Concussions in the National Football League"

Citation: Seshadri, D. R., Thom, M. C., Kim, J. S., Steele, R. W., Fiore, K. F., & Freehill, M. T. (2015). Style of play and rate of concussions in the National Football League. Orthopaedic Journal of Sports Medicine, 3(12), 2325967115620412.

 Relevance: This study directly links the high number of passing plays in a West Coast offense to a significantly greater risk of concussions for offensive players compared to the Air Coryell offense.

 "Effect of Passing Plays on Injury Rates in the National Football League"

Citation: Thom, M. C., Smith, K., Steele, R. W., Kim, J. S., & Seshadri, D. R. (2021). Effect of passing plays on injury rates in the National Football League. The Physician and Sportsmedicine, 49(4), 431-436.

 Relevance: This research found that passing plays confer a significantly higher risk of in-game injuries, especially concussions (OR 1.7), than running plays. It highlights quarterbacks, wide receivers, and defensive backs as the most affected positions.

 "Epidemiology of Concussion in the National Football League, 2015-2019"

Citation: Buckman, J. S., Clough, R. E., & Zheng, J. T. (2021). Epidemiology of Concussion in the National Football League, 2015-2019. Orthopaedic Journal of Sports Medicine, 9(8), 23259671211024345.

 Relevance: This paper provides comprehensive data on concussion rates by position and play type, noting that while most concussions occur during running and passing plays overall, the rate per play is highest on kickoffs, and positions heavily involved in pass plays (tight ends and wide receivers) have the highest exposure rates.

These sources, along with internal data analysis by the NFL that is frequently reported in football analytics, support the conclusions about the differing risks associated with specific game scenarios like sacks versus scrambles.

 This is for informational purposes only. For medical advice or diagnosis, consult a professional. AI responses may include mistakes. 

 

Saquon Barkley Just Demolished the 2018 NFL Combine | STACK

He should be the next great RB for the NYGs. Barkley is a big fan of Curtis Martin, his versatility reminds me of former Penn State RB Lydell Mitchell (#23 at Penn State but #26 in the pros) .

Similar pro production to Mitchell would make him a solid pick at #2. The G's may look to draft Eli's eventual replacement, but this might be too good to pass up on a maybe, which most college QB's are. 

from stack.com
http://www.stack.com/a/saquon-barkley-just-demolished-the-2018-nfl-combine

Saquon Barkley Just Demolished the 2018 NFL Combine

Brandon Hall Updated: March 02, 2018

In this episode of the Michael Johnson Performance Series, former Olympic Gold medalist Michael Johnson shows you how to get into a perfect starting stance for the 40-Yard Dash.

Saquon Barkley just proved himself as one of the greatest athletes in NFL Combine history.

While we'd heard of Barkley performing some astonishing athletic feats in college, you've often got to take such anecdotes with a grain of salt. But after watching the two-time Big Ten Offensive Player of the Year dominate the marquee Combine events, any lingering skepticism regarding his raw athletic abilities has been thoroughly squashed.

Barkley's results included a 4.40 40-Yard Dash, a 41-inch Vertical Jump and 29 reps on the 225-pound Bench Press test.

This tweet from NFL Research really sums it up best:

Penn State RB Saquon Barkley at 2018 Combine:

- Stronger than Joe Thomas
- Quicker than DeSean Jackson
- Faster than Devin Hester
- Jumps higher than Julio Jones@PennStateFball

— NFL Research (@NFLResearch) 2:59 PM - Mar 2, 2018

Barkley told Kim Jones of NFL Network that he would not be performing the Broad Jump, 60-Yard Shuttle or 3-Cone Drill at the Combine. His game tape shows some ludicrous lateral agility, so perhaps he'll perform the shuttle drills at his Pro Day.

As if Barkley's results weren't impressive enough, they're even more eye-popping considering he measured in at 6-foot, 233 pounds. That made him one of the heaviest running backs at this year's Combine, yet his frame seems to contain nothing but muscle. All these metrics add up to make Barkley an absolute nightmare for defenders. Now, the question is what backfield he'll find himself lining up in next season.

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NY Giants undrafted free agents signings | NJ.com

 

These are guys who can make or break your special teams and eventually break into your starting lineup and be serious contributors. It looks like the G-Men went for size and/or speed except for LB Cole Farrand from Maryland, so my guess is he will be the pick of this litter.

from NJ.com
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2015/05/giants_undrafted_free_agents_signings.html

DE Brad Harrah (Cincinnati)
He's 6-5, 270 pounds, and has the size the Giants like on their defensive line. Harrah can also play inside and out. He had 32 tackles and 3.5 sacks this past season.

TE Matt LaCrosse (Illinois)
He's a 6-6, 260-pound athletic tight end. Played tight end, fullback and H-back at Illinois, where he caught 14 passes for 117 yards and three touchdowns.

RB Akeem Hunt (Purdue)
Speedy running back who ran the 40-yard dash in 4.40 seconds. Hunt (5-9 3/4, 189) was a quality kickoff returner at Purdue and rushed for over 1,000 yards last season.

LB Cole Farrand (Maryland)
The inside linebacker is tough and a solid tackler who could bring a lot on special teams. He's not special athletically.

S Justin Currie (Western Michigan)
Currie (6-2, 210) is a big, strong safety. He put up 19 reps on the bench press at his Pro Day and had 105 tackles this past season.

OL Sean Donnelly (Tulane)
He's long and tall (6-foot-8) but not especially thick (298 pounds). The offensive tackle was a three-year starter for the Green Wave.

NY Giants rookie comps

I like the comps on these guys, solid if not spectacular players. The Giants in effect sacrificed their 4th round pick to get two first round picks. Traded quantity for quality.

On some of the mock drafts, you would have seen Landon Collins and Ereck Flowers both in the top 10-15 players listed. To secure both by the beginning of the second round was quite a coup and hats off to the staff for that. Perhaps they have done enough to make the Giants competitive for a playoff spot. 

from giants.com

http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Which-NFL-players-do-Giants-Rookies-compare-to/991710f7-1482-4d51-83a2-9c5c2f3944b0

NFL Experts made pro comparisons for the Giants 2015 Rookie Class

Over this past weekend in Chicago, the NFL ushered in the next generation of players. 

Time will tell how they stack up with their predecessors, but until then, Giants.com gathered comparisons of the six members of the New York Giants 2015 Draft Class with players currently in the league. 

ROUND 1: OL ERECK FLOWERS

Compared to:

Anthony Davis, San Francisco 49ers

"Flowers is a big, strong, power man. He's a powerful run blocker and has prototypical tackle traits. He reminds me of the 49ers' Anthony Davis when he came out of Rutgers." -- Mike Mayock, NFL Media

Cordy Glenn, Buffalo Bills

"Arguably plays with as much of an edge as any offensive lineman in this draft class. Stays engaged up to, and at times even through, the whistle. Wants to bury any defender in his path, with the strength to do so in the run game." -- Chris Burke, SI.com

ROUND 2: SAFETY LANDON COLLINS

Compared to:

Donte Whitner, Cleveland Browns

"Although Collins has said he idolizes former Washington safety Sean Taylor, draft gurus compare him to another run-thumping safety Donte Whitner, who was a first-rounder back in 2006." -- Chris Burke and Doug Farrar, SI.com

"Donte Whitner is a guy that has really found his niche in the league, a guy that can come down and really deliver big shots on runners in the hole but also has the ability to play in space and make plays on the ball. 

So when I look at Landon Collins, in the right system, he's a guy that can rock and roll at the safety position, meaning he can come down on some downs and play in the box, other downs he can play in the middle of the field." -- Bucky Brooks, NFL Media

ROUND 3: DE OWAMAGBE ODIGHIZUWA

Compared to:

Sam Acho, Chicago Bears

"Relentless and competitive. Never gives up on a pass rush. Expected to be a core special-teams talent. Can play 4-3 defensive end or 3-4 outside linebacker." -- Lance Zierlein, NFL Media

ROUND 5: SAFETY MYKKELE THOMPSON

Compared to:

Aaron Ross, Free Agent

"You are going to go through some growing pains when you play in the secondary, especially with one that is as aggressive as ours. We put some guys on islands back there. We can go through it with Aaron Ross and some of those great ones who had some struggles early in their careers and did fine by the time they left here. I see Mykkele much in that same stride." -- Duane Akina, former Texas Secondary Coach (now with Stanford)

ROUND 6: WR GEREMY DAVIS

Compared to: 

David Tyree, former New York Giants wide receiver

"Geremy Davis is a David Tyree, Jason Avant kind of guy, can be your fourth or fifth receiver and play special teams and can come in and play any of the receiver positions and make some big catches in tight spots for you." -- Jerry Reese, New York Giants, General Manager 

Jason Avant, Kansas City Chiefs

"Yeah, one of our scouts, Ryan Jones, compared him to Avant. That was a good one. Hopefully he can be an 'Avant.'" -- Marc Ross, New York Giants, Vice President Player Evaluation 

"He kind of reminds you of Jason Avant. I think that was a name somebody brought up in our meeting. One of those kind of guys that could be your fourth, fifth receiver, play on special teams, has size, can block, good route runner, and catch the ball nice." -- Jerry Reese, New York Giants, General Manager

ROUND 7: OL BOBBY HART

Compared to:

Ramon Foster, Pittsburgh Steelers

"Tape doesn't always treat Hart kindly, but his issues in pass protection as a tackle won't be the same issues he faces in the NFL as a guard. While he has physical limitations, Hart is a competitive player who flashes NFL power potential." -- Lance Zierlein, NFL Media

Future NY Giants prospects

The consensus grade for the Giants draft was B / B-. The Redskins early pick of Scherff forced the Giants hand and they went for the next best bet in Ereck Flowers. Some feel this was a bit of a reach, but if the Giants felt they had to address the OL early and if Flowers develops into a quality LT, this is a great pick. Even if he has to move over to RT or inside to guard, still a good pick. Flowers is 6-6, 329 with a mean streak so the Giants got bigger and badder on the front line, which was a serious need.

Moving up to get Alabama SS Landon Collins was a good move. He was graded as a first-round talent and it is a need position, so you get quality, value and fill a need on the roster. Collins is a sturdy strong safety at 6-0, 228 and well coached.

Owa Odighizuwa is an athletic 6-3, 270 DE from UCLA who has been described as Justin Tuck 2.0. That would be a good deal. He's a bit of a combine warrior who needs to translate his athletic gifts into useful football skills.

Texas DB Mykkele Thompson is versatile and big at 6-2, 191. Maybe more safety than CB, if he contributes as expected in nickel and dime packages, the Giants pass defense should be improved.

Sixth round WR Gerry Davis, 6-2, 216 from Connecticut, is probably a back up, possession type receiver and FSU guard Bobby Hart, a seventh rounder will provide depth and size on the OL at 6-5, 329.

Bottom line is the Giants added a guy who should come right in and start in Collins, a possible project in Flowers, who should contribute in first year, if not start immediately. Odighizuwa and Thompson are the wild-cards. How early and often they contribute will decide in hindsight how good this draft is for the Giants. They did get good value out of Collins and Odighizuwa at the top of the draft and a few draft pundits targeted Thompson as a sleeper pick (ie: good value). Hart could develop down the road.

Overall, it looks like a good draft for the Giants who really needed one at this point. I give it a solid B grade. They still need to address the LB position, but the addressed the need for a pass rusher and the offensive line.


Analysis from NFL.com


1.9 Ereck Flowers
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/ereck-flowers?id=2552452

OVERVIEW

As a junior in 2014, started all but one game at left tackle and was second-team All-ACC selection. Flowers suffered a knee injury in the middle of the season and reportedly underwent a surgical procedure to repair the injury but missed only one game because of it. Admonished for using an obscene gesture toward Nebraska fans after an on-field skirmish. In 2013, started all 13 games at left tackle. In 2012, started four games as a freshman at right tackle. Ranked as a four-star prospect by Scout and Rivals coming out of Miami Norland High School. Helped lead team to a 15-0 record and Class 5A state championship. Was the only player at the NFL Scouting Combine who decided not to hire an agent.

PRO DAY RESULTS

Vertical jump: 27 inches

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS

 Big, athletic frame carrying more than 320 pounds with ease. Ascending mauler in the run game. Bender who is low man off snap and pops hips into block to leverage defender at the point. Combines hips, arm extension and upper-body power to consistently turn his man when base blocking. Once he gets upper hand in run game, he usually sustains and finishes. Secures combo block with a vengeance. Has feet to become solid zone blocker. Mean and highly competitive. Wants to dominate and gets surly when beaten on a snap. Special foot quickness in pass protection. Able to mirror and counter two-way rushers or B-gap blitzers. Uses quick feet and loose hips to turn, scramble and recover when beaten. Pass-set depth and technique improved as year progressed. Has played both tackle positions.

WEAKNESSES

 Pass protection needs plenty of work. Footwork gets sloppy and undisciplined, causing base to narrow. Ducks head into contact and is a leaner in pass pro, creating balance problems. Rarely flat-footed upon initial hand contact. Throws hands rather than firing authoritative punch. Hands ride too high and too wide. Content to become grabby around framework of defender. Flagged for six holding penalties over last two seasons. Slow to secure and climb on combo blocks and is often lacking balance on the way to target. Doesn't bring feet under him to sustain second-level blocks. Knocked off balance by smaller pass rushers due to poor balance. Hips looked tight and struggled to gain ground when asked to pass set in combine drills.

DRAFT PROJECTION

 Round 1

NFL COMPARISON

 Jack Mewhort

BOTTOM LINE

 Flowers has good size and short area foot quickness, but he also features some lower body tightness and struggles to get proper depth quickly to consistently meet edge rushers. Some of Flowers' pass protection issue may be difficult to overcome. On the hand, his strength as a run blocker and ability to uproot his man and get them turned is undeniable. Flowers may be drafted as a tackle, but his best position could end up being as a guard where I would put a draft grade on him of 6.12.

2.40 Landon Collins http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/landon-collins?id=2552454

OVERVIEW

Played 41 career games, starting the last 23. As a junior in 2014, voted unanimous first-team All-American. Was first-team All-SEC selection and a finalist for the Nagurski Award, Lott IMPACT Trophy and Jim Thorpe Award. Led the team in tackles (103) and interceptions (3). Played both safety spots and started three games at dime back during three seasons at Alabama. Second-team All-SEC selection as a sophomore in 2013. As a freshman in 2012, tied for team lead with 10 special teams tackles and blocked a punt. Was rated No. 1 safety in the nation and top-10 overall prospect by 247sports.com coming out of Dutchtown (La.) High School. Became first player in Louisiana Sports Writers Association history to earn 5A All-State honors on both sides of the ball (rushed for 1,218 yards and 21 touchdowns).

PRO DAY RESULTS

Bench press: 16 reps of 225 pounds

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS

 Thick safety with a no-nonsense demeanor typical of a Nick Saban-coached player. Decisive against the run. Gets high to low quickly and is all over the ball. Leverages running backs to sideline and keeps contain. A true sheriff against the run. Tracks and stalks ball carriers with patience. Hits the gas and explodes into his tackles with purpose. Feet are under him and balanced when ready to strike. Aggressive and tough with a desire to intimidate. Disciplined eyes -- is not easily moved around field by quarterbacks. Wrap-up tackler. Physical enough to match up against tight ends and has the feet to carry big, slot targets. Transitions to throws quickly in zone coverage and limits yards after catch. Finds and tracks ball and times his leaps well. Aggressive in playing the ball and disrupts the catch with his physicality. Core special-teams player.

WEAKNESSES

 Average hands. Dropped easy interceptions against Texas A&M and Arkansas. Looked much quicker in 2013 than he did in 2014. Can be beaten in a foot race. Average recovery speed. Sometimes shows too much confidence in recovery speed. Gets caught peeking into backfield and can be beaten over the top after a late jump. Inconsistent route recognition. Beaten for game-tying and game-winning touchdowns by Ole Miss. Shows some hip stiffness when asked to open up and run. Might be carrying too much bulk.

DRAFT PROJECTION

 Round 1

NFL COMPARISON

 Johnathan Cyprien

BOTTOM LINE

 Collins is a tempo-setter who can energize a defense with his downhill, aggressive style. He is at his best when he can attack rather than sit back in coverage and process. Collins' tackling, pursuit angles and speed to the sideline can help a defense shut down rushing attacks, but his inconsistencies in coverage will be tested by NFL offenses.

3.74 Owa Odighizuwa http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/owamagbe-odighizuwa?id=2552275

OVERVIEW

Participated in 2015 Senior Bowl. Selected second-team All-Pac-12 in 2014, tying for team lead with 11.5 tackles for loss and finishing second on team with 6 sacks. Granted medical redshirt in 2013 after missing entire season following surgery on both hips. Played in 38 games from 2010-2012 with 8 starts. Was a Parade All-American and USA Today second-team All-American in high school, where he also lettered in basketball and track.

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS

 Absolute Greek God with the pads off. Shredded physique with very little body fat. Strong at the point of attack. Plays with desired anchor and strong lower body. Run defender who can close down creases. Gets off ball with good pad level and has potential to convert speed to power. Hands are violent and active. Relentless and competitive. Never gives up on a pass rush. Expected to be a core special-teams talent. Can play 4-3 defensive end or 3-4 outside linebacker.

WEAKNESSES

 Not skilled as a pass rusher. Won't win around the edge often and must prove he can counter back inside. Has dealt with two surgeries on his hip and missed all of 2013 because of it. Lateral agility is limited. Range in pursuit in question. Could be mismatched if forced to cover in space. More unit fit than talented player.

DRAFT PROJECTION

 Round 2

SOURCES TELL US

 "He's not Courtney Upshaw, but he could be used kind of like that. I can see him playing in both 4-3 or 3-4, but he can't be counted on as a pass rusher and you have to know that he will be limited to just being a run stopper." -- AFC national scout

NFL COMPARISON

 Sam Acho

BOTTOM LINE

 Odighizuwa has some scheme versatility, but he's not necessarily a versatile player. Some scouts believe that he could open some eyes with his straight-line speed in his workout, but his marginal pass-rush skills and average athleticism could stunt his draft stock.

5.144 Mykkele Thompson http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/mykkele-thompson?id=2553438

OVERVIEW

Appeared in every game (52) during his four seasons with the Longhorns.

PRO DAY RESULTS

40-yard dash: 4.47 and 4.48 seconds
Vertical jump: 36 inches
Broad jump: 10 feet, 6 inches
Short shuttle: 4.46 seconds
3-cone: 6.97 seconds
Bench: 18 reps of 225 pounds

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS

 Versatile and can play corner and safety. Has good length and is a plus athlete.

WEAKNESSES

 Lacks bulk and strength and was a very inconsistent tackler who didn't always take good angles.

6.186 Geremy Davis 
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/geremy-davis?id=2552654

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS

 Broad-shouldered target who makes himself presentable for the catch. Proficient route runner. Good use of leverage in his routes to create room at top of his routes. Makes heavily contested catches in the middle of the field. Keeps cornerbacks posted up on his hip. Plays with extended catch radius. Not a physical blocker, but walls off and shows flashes of getting after it with defender.

WEAKNESSES

 Lost snaps to younger players during 2014 season. Slow receiver lacking necessary timed and play speed for an NFL wide receiver. Doesn't have foot quickness to free himself from press coverage. Tight-hipped with prolonged gear-down into his break. Struggles to separate against quality cover corners who mirror and match him. Leans into routes, giving away his intentions. Won't do much after the catch.

DRAFT PROJECTION

 Undrafted

BOTTOM LINE

 Davis is a big, reliable target who simply falls well below the NFL standard for functional play speed at the wide receiver position. Maybe he will surprise at his workouts, but the tape doesn't show a player who can get much separation with necessary athleticism. He might not be strong enough to handle it, but additional weight on his frame could make him a candidate for a shot as a move tight end.

7. Bobby Hart  http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/bobby-hart?id=2552335

OVERVIEW

2014: Third-team All-ACC. Started all 14 games at RT. 2013: Honorable mention All-ACC. Started all 14 games at RT. Blocked for a Heisman Trophy winner in Jameis Winston and helped lead FSU to an ACC championship and BCS national championship. 2012: Played in eight games as a backup guard and member of the field goal kicking team. 2011: Played in 11 games, serving as a reserve in the first two weeks and starting in the final nine games of the season at LT. Replaced injured senior Andrew Datko and maintained his starting role.

PRO DAY RESULTS

40-yard dash: 5.67 seconds
Vertical jump: 27 inches
Broad jump: 7 feet, 11 inches
Short shuttle: 5.07 seconds
3-cone: 8.08 seconds
Bench press: 22 reps of 225 pounds

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS

 Bubble butt with power in his lower half. Improved from being a neutralizer to run-block winner in 2014. Can reestablish line of scrimmage when asked to maul. Wins in short yardage and near goal line. Gets hand on defender first and can latch on in pass protection. Turned 20 years old in August and body is still developing.

WEAKNESSES

 Stiff knees and hips limit his bend and leverage. Comes out of his stance too high. Shuffles feet rather than chops in pass pro, causing his base to narrow. Struggles to make his back-side cutoff blocks. Frenetic hands with too much wasted motion. Limited, small-area, guard-only prospect. Lethargic feet after contact.

DRAFT PROJECTION

 Round 6

NFL COMPARISON

 Ramon Foster

BOTTOM LINE

 Young, soft-bodied prospect who is best suited to play guard in the NFL. Tape doesn't always treat Hart kindly, but his issues in pass protection as a tackle won't be same issues he faces in the NFL as a guard. While he has physical limitations, Hart is a competitive player who flashes NFL power potential.