Friday, December 10, 2010

Did the Giants make a Rule 5 error?


GIANTS - CLAYTON TANNER

Far be it from me to question the organization so soon after delivering the long-awaited championship, HOWEVER!!!. What on earth were the brass thinking by protecting Clayton Tanner from the Rule 5 and exposing -- and losing Joe Paterson?

This isn't so much second guessing as the head-scratching begins when you send Patterson to the elite Arizona Fall League, only to lose him as a prospect. In effect, they end up aiding in the development of a serviceable prospect who will now help a divisional rival.

From a statistical (or results) glance, the side by side seems to favor Paterson.

Tanner 6-2, 185 LHP (3rd round pick, 2006)

WHIP 1.35
H/9 9.06
HR/9 0.56
BB/9 3.13
K/9 6.56
K/BB 2.1

For a finesse (low K-rate) pitcher Tanner's control seems to be below average (3.13 BB/9). (BAD SIGN)

Conversely, Patterson for a power-type (high K-rate) pitcher seems to have a low walk rate. (GOOD SIGN)

Paterson 6-1, 210 LHP (10th round, 2007)

WHIP 1.18
H/9 7.35
HR/9 0.33
BB/9 3.30
K/9 9.58
K/BB 2.9

Unless the fact that Tanner was a higher round draft pick (higher perceived ceiling) with more dollars invested versus Patterson being perceived as a bit of a WYSIWIG (What you see is what you get).

Tanner may have more of a chance to develop into a starter long-term than Paterson who, due to his arm-slot (low, low) may be limited to late-inning specialist versus lefties. HOWEVER!!! if indeed Paterson is pigeon-holed as a situational southpaw or LOOGY (lefty one-out guy), his stats indicate that he has been largely effective in that role. And it is a valuable role.

Time will tell which prospect delivers more goods. I still question sending Paterson to the AFL if there was no intent to protect him as a prospect.


FORMER GIANT - JOE PATERSON

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

Joe Pa is a stud. Played with him after his first year at Linfield during summer ball before he headed to Oregon State. He started for us at the time.. better out of the pen at that level though having to throw so many innings.

Charles Slavik, CPT*D said...

I still can't believe they didn't protect him. And as evidence that they believe they screwed up themselves, I believe the Giants went out and got Dowdy from Tampa Bay to make up for the loss. You can't convince me that they would have traded those two even up before the Rule 5.

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  • 2. Heliot Ramos 6-2, 185 OF Potential high-ceiling player the Giants have been looking for. Great bat speed, early returns were impressive.
  • 3. Chris Shaw 6-3. 230 1B Lefty power bat, limited defensively to 1B, Matt Adams comp?
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